Now check out this scene, which can also be found in that TV show made 4 years later:
Well…. quite odd! They re-used the complete underwater footage here!!!
The scenario is exactly the same. The detective (Ben Gazzara!) wants to meet with a woman only to be attacked by a mysterious frogwoman in rubber!
But there are some differences (despite the different actors):
Here we actually see some very short scenes of the evil frogwoman above the water.
In the original, they fight underwater and suddenly….cut….and he is in a hospital. One of the worst cuts in the history of humankind! ARGHHHHH!
In this “remake” we see him pulling the obviously defeated frogwoman to the shore, with her mouthpiece in his hand!
But then…. I start yelling at the screen! AGAIN, they don’t show the villainess anymore except for some seconds where she is already covered in a blanket.
How bizarre is that? Why have they shown only so little of her??? I would have loved to see the defeated frogwoman in her wet rubber suit on the surface! Just add a dialogue there and show her!
The murderer is finally caught and she just vanishes without saying a word!
DAMN! Really frustrates me big time! That and that the moment of him overpowering her underwater isn’t shown properly.
However the flaws, that ending… in both versions…. in one of my all-time favorites!
It’s such a unique scenario. An evil frogwoman in rubber who wants to drown a guy in this scene ….and already did drown a woman earlier in the episode!
How often do you get that in a TV show or movie? Spoiler-Alert….Basically NEVER! 😉
Ok, it’s hard to say if the diver who actually did the diving during filming is actually a woman….since the underwater picture is rather dark… or if they used a male diver to double for the villainess.
However it is supposed to be a woman, that is 100% clear.
So, why the same scenario and the same underwater footage?
These episodes are from different TV shows but are basically identical as the script is nearly a copy (some slight changes).
With some quick research, I found out that both TV shows were made by the same company (Roncom Films) for the same network (NBC).
The earlier show is from 1964 and the “remake” is from 1968.
So they “just” re-used footage that they shoot some years earlier.
Quite bizarre that they just remade an entire episode just some years later in a different TV show.
Don’t know why they did it, perhaps they were just lazy and recycled the script 😆
In the original, the villainess is the secretary of the guy who was in love with the drowned woman from the beginning of the episode.
Here is a picture of the villainous redhead from the original (Fiona Volpe vibes):
Really a shame she wasn’t shown on the surface in her rubbery frogwoman suit. 🙁
In the remake, she is his personal physical therapist (and less attractive)…but that is already one of the biggest changes from the original to the remake.
I guess you might wanna know now from which TV show that remake is?
You could nearly think that someone who worked on this movie had a little fetish 😉
I mean the two who are waiting on the beach are wearing full wetsuits with hoods and scuba socks just to quickly run into the water and assist the other guy for some seconds.
But they are running around in wetsuits for over 10 minutes in the movie. That could have been achieved without both in full rubber…but well….. I won’t complain about it 😉
However, she looks gorgeous in that suit, even though I curse that this wasn’t shot in color back in 1966, which would be done most likely if this would have been a US movie. I think color is just a lot sexier.
If I would be the actor on that beach with her she would probably wonder why I look away from her 99% of the time to keep “cool” 😆
I am glad that she is the one who is wearing the hood most of the time, really adds to the great optic.
Quite a dark ending that all but the villainess die in the end. A really good scene as he tried to run away from the police in order to use his dive gear to escape. Even that would have been quite difficult, even if he made it without getting shot. But well, the whole movie had this atmosphere that was leading to a tragic ending.
Must have been… interesting… for the actor who was on the plane as he was filming in that wetsuit for a loooong time.
Would have been nice if the frogwoman would have fought with some cops on her attempted escape….
But ok, that was sadly no option back in the 60s as this was filmed.
You won’t see any women in the video of this post.
So, why do I make a post about it?
I think this scene is a great “template” for a scuba fight with sexy female divers!
Check out the video, I’m very sure you will find it interesting….
I was browsing through some old footage that I had recorded a long time ago and stumbled on this scene.
And I managed to make a video file in good quality for you folks and myself.
(click to enlarge)
And here is the video:
Well, now imagine that these divers would wear the same outfits…but… would actually be sexy frogWOmen!
They try to drown him and he fights back, struggling with the sexy rubberwomen underwater… 😉
Or imagine Mannix to be a female detective… whatever you like best.
The scuba gear is near perfection for me here. The black rubber wetsuit in combination with hoods and double hose regulators were always my favorite since …a certain movie 😉
And it would be so awesome to have sexy, evil frogwomen in such a scuba fight!
Ok, back to the scene:
Well, these two really screw up big time! They are two against one. They have a complete set of scuba gear, he has nothing at all, but manages to win the fight.
I guess they wanted to make it look like he drowned, otherwise they could have used their knives…. or they underestimated him.
However, it’s not so easy to pull down a buoyant body down, even they are two.
But they fail to control him so he can temporarily “throw” one frogman out of the fight and is able to fight against one.
I love how he rips off the complete hose from the first stage. Hard to say how realistic that is…. but I think it is possible…perhaps.
And he actually rips it off the intake port, which is on the right side of the tank/first stage. Air is streaming out of it….
Then they actually cheat as suddenly the hose is ripped off from the left side of the tank/first stage. Obviously, the air is free-flowing and the diver is losing air, but with this trick, he still can breathe, so the stunt diver is quite safe.
Seemingly the diver in the scene then immediately drowns, which is quite odd as he isn’t out of air for long and Mannix was underwater longer without air. He is never seen again afterward.
The second diver then finally grabs his knife to kill Mannix, but well… he loses the struggle with Mannix and also his knife to him.
All in all, I really like this scene as it’s a great template if you have a little fantasy…. 😉
P.S.: The same two divers actually kidnap a woman from a boat and force a scuba tank on her earlier in the episode!
But….tragically…. that story gets only told….not shown on the screen! DAMN IT!
What I would give to have that scene in full colors…..
There are 4 seasons of this TV show. 3 of them were filmed in color. Sadly this is from the first season 🙁
However, I really love that scene despite some flaws!
Thankfully they had a female diver to play the role and didn’t use a male to play her action part as they often did in the 50s and 60s.
A really big minus point for me is how passive she is. But well, fits the time in which this was shot.
She basically does nothing. She doesn’t defend herself and she doesn’t attack him at any time! She did have quite some opportunities to attack him, but she is basically a Scubadoll in a rubber suit 😆
She just holds onto him while he is occupied with her tank harness, she could easily rip off his mask or rip out his regulator! Yes, she doesn’t have her scuba mask, but he is so close in front of her, that she should be able to see him well enough.
The fact that she doesn’t need her tank to breathe underwater is a minus point as well, but you can easily change that in your fantasy 😉
If I remember the backstory right she has the special ability to breathe underwater.
The bad guys are using her as a weapon to fight the submarine of the good guys. Her tank is actually an explosive device.
I love how the guy immediately goes for her mask to blind her (temporarily). He knows what he is doing.
It’s very rare to have an unmasked woman in such a scuba fight scene.
Her “unmasked” face looks quite sexy…
He has to get rid of her explosive “tank” and therefore he strips her of her scuba tank as well and thereby she also loses her regulator (that she needs in my fantasy).
The explosion hits her, and she is unconscious for the moment.
The naughty frogman takes ….advantage…. of that:
Damn, that stunt diver(?) really had a great time! I guess they had to repeat some of these scenes quite often 😆
I added the scene where she is unconscious and gets carried around in the submarine as that is quite sexy as well.
Again I played around with the simple tool to colorize one picture:
Yeah, not exactly a great result but at least better than the black and white version.
Pretty sure that is the Voit logo on his chest. Look like they used the same suits later on in Thunderball (different colors).
This episode actually aired earlier in the same year as Thunderball did (1965).
Today I wanna post a full HD video with proper text for this sexy scene!
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And here is the video:
As you can see I made some cuts in the last part of the video. Well, I wanted to keep the length of the video to a certain size and besides that, she isn’t in these scenes that I cut out.
I recommend watching the whole movie if you like movies like Jaws. This one is pretty good and it has one GREAT feature for me: A fantastic score by grandmaster Ennio Morricone which really makes this movie stand out in comparison to others of this genre (+good actors).
Ok, back to this scene.
Her whole scuba gear is pretty close to perfection to me! This vintage wetsuit just looks awesome 🙂
Ok, I would prefer a vintage double hose regulator for her, but that classic single hose regulator is very nice as well.
From today’s point of view, it looks rather….odd, that she (who is a marine biologist) is hiding between the rocks as a shark approaches. But ok, a great white shark does look menacing, even he is not nearly as dangerous in reality as in the movies. But back in the old days nearly everyone thought that all sharks would be very dangerous, especially after Jaws.
However, it’s a thrilling scene to see her squeeze herself between these rocks.
It’s a fun scene later on as well, as the rough captain yells at the diver (he thought it was a man) and she then pulls back her hood to reveal her long hair.
Yeah, that sight of her in that wetsuit made him speechless for a moment.
Who could blame him? 😉
Charlotte Rampling did look pretty good back then. She was around 30 as the movie was shot, and that wetsuit is just very sexy.
In my version, she would hide from the shark as well but would damage her air hose as she would leave the rocks. Even that would be hard to do in a realistic fashion. Perhaps it got stuck there 😉
So, with the shark close by and her losing a lot of air…. you would have a little more thrill! 😉
(not my upload….. hopefully, it will stay on Youtube)
Isn’t that navy ship armed in any way? No small cannons, no AA guns, no machine guns, no nothing? Hard to believe… but they are only using their assault rifles to fire upon the bad guys.
Also, the navy guys and girls should be in a big advantage. They are on the big ship, can use cover there (what they are mostly not doing), are better equipped, and still have so many problems in fighting off some goons in their small boats?!?
What I don’t understand at all is….why are all these people just shacking their guns and pretending to fire upon each other???????
It looks like small kids would play with each other in kindergarten 😆
I mean, they used this ship, a helicopter, all these boats, had these rifles…… but then no money to buy some blanks???
This way the whole action looks ridiculous² …
This movie is mainly about a female squad of navy soldiers.
Back in 1990 as this movie was made, this was rather unusual.
So, is this movie perhaps feministic?
Well, quite the opposite in my opinion!
I mean most of them are portrayed rather incompetent (for example: the way they hold their rifles) and often are completely hysterical.
This is a rather horrible and sexist way to portray them. Well, Mexico in 1990…. I am not surprised. (wouldn’t be much different in most other countries at that time)
But enough of that, it works as an (unintentional) comedy for me…
The wetsuits are very nice, I wish there would be more and better footage of the frogwomen underwater.
What a missed chance….you have 2 navy frogwomen in sexy black wetsuits(!!!!) ….and then no enemy divers to fight against? DAMN!
Seems like the filming crew here didn’t know much about scuba diving 😉
Later on, as she is underwater the mistake got corrected.
The “good” woman is wearing a wetsuit and scuba socks under her coat they don’t bother in hiding it especially as she is out of the water again in the end. But I guess she was wearing that for the filming of that scene of the movie that they shot inside this movie…..quite confusing 😆
Underwater, there are two main problems for me.
The visibility is quite bad and I guess therefore the camera is very close to the two women, too close sometimes.
But I love the breathing sounds of the villainess and the fact that the other woman fights back, she isn’t totally passive like other women in other movies.
Several times she tries to steal the regulator of the villainess….. so great!
The villainess “only” needs to keep her underwater, even that would be pretty difficult in reality, as the other woman has no weights on her and is even wearing a wetsuit!
I think it would be hard to keep her from surfacing, but ok, only a small issue.
It’s also a little off that the guy does immediately find the two in a murky lake and that without a scuba mask. Yeah, there are bubbles from the regulator of the villainess, but I think it would be really difficult to find them quickly. Especially without a scuba mask.
It’s a shame that the detective was already in scuba gear and disturbs the villainess.
A shame that the villainess here wasn’t able to put up more of a fight. Quickly he yanks down her mask hard and thereby also removes her regulator. With one swift move, she is finished.
Seemingly he quickly yanks down her scuba hood as soon they hit the surface because her hood is already down as the camera shows her.
I love the way she looks as they drag her away in her gorgeous scuba outfit!
And the whole idea of having this villainess putting on that scuba gear to sneakily kill a woman in a film shooting is just brilliant and quite ….sexy….for me.
I mean it’s incredibly rare to have a frogwoman who tries to kill someone. Especially in such a sexy wetsuit!
This villainess here is one of my favorite villainesses of all time.
And even the scuba scene has quite some flaws, I will make an entry in the Hall of Fame, where you already can find a special “wetsuit cut” video of this scene!
Would have loved to see how she would have escaped from the lake in her wetsuit…